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* Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/400883197 | * Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/400883197 | ||
* | * Attendees: LC, AM, MAL, BS, EA, PJ | ||
* Regrets: CM | |||
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* Link to the agenda: [https://sites.google.com/a/cgxchange.org/cropontologycommunity/workshop-on-harmonization-semantic-and-integration-of-phenotypic-and-agronomic-data-9-13-may-2016-montpellier-france/agenda PhenoHarmonIS Agenda] | * Link to the agenda: [https://sites.google.com/a/cgxchange.org/cropontologycommunity/workshop-on-harmonization-semantic-and-integration-of-phenotypic-and-agronomic-data-9-13-may-2016-montpellier-france/agenda PhenoHarmonIS Agenda] | ||
Planteome Presentations: | ===Planteome Presentations: === | ||
* Monday afternoon: oral presentation (10 mins) LC: "The Planteome Project" | * Monday afternoon: oral presentation (10 mins) LC: "The Planteome Project" | ||
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* Tuesday afternoon: oral presentation (10 min)- MAL: "Ontology Mapping Techniques for traits" | * Tuesday afternoon: oral presentation (10 min)- MAL: "Ontology Mapping Techniques for traits" | ||
* Tuesday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)- LV: | * '''Tuesday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)- LV:''' | ||
** Progressing on the Trait Dictionaries: Groups: Tree species (cacao), Musa, barley | ** Progressing on the Trait Dictionaries: Groups: wheat, rice, maize, Tree species (cacao), Musa, barley, sorghum, potato, sweet potato, yam | ||
** Feedback on the TD template | ** Feedback on the TD template | ||
* Thursday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)-AM, LC: "Planteome: Bring Your Own Data Annotation Mini-Workshop | * Notes: | ||
** Wheat TD version #5 was uploaded just prior to the PhenoHarmonis meeting (to where?) | |||
** Rosemary shared the validated mappings duringt he workshop, so MAL will be able to upload onto the Planteome Github | |||
** Rice almost done | |||
** Reinhard is almost done with the TDs for the potato, sweet potato | |||
''Leo is leaving the project as of May 30th- lack of funds and moving on to other things'' | |||
* Leo working on the guide lines for the TDs | |||
* ''Who will Continue work on TD, or is it dying?- Julian taking a few crops over, | |||
* ''EA, and MAL will be working on the remainder in their free time. | |||
* ''EA wants to hire someone new, but no funds, is applying for several grants. Agroportal has no funding ''. | |||
* H2020 program not too secure funding | |||
* Genticin (??) Platform more reliable | |||
* ''PJ offered to talk to Leo about options if he is interested'' | |||
***reference ontology space makes it very difficult to standardize workflow | * '''Weds afternoon- Visit to https://www6.montpellier.inra.fr/lepse_eng/M3P/PHENOARCH-platform''' | ||
** High throughput phenotyping platform, rotate through different crop experiments | |||
** Pascal's database, | |||
** should try to access the list of evaluation data and the traits | |||
** Analyzed final data, to test on | |||
** how to address HTP phenotyping experiments? | |||
** Follow-up with Astrid Junker, list of traits? : | |||
** Francois Tardieu - leader at PhenoArch- LC will contact | |||
===Thursday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)-AM, LC: "Planteome: Bring Your Own Data Annotation Mini-Workshop=== | |||
* '' 9 participants, 7 crop species:'' | |||
** Nordine El- Hassouni - CIRAD - rice | |||
** Trushar Shah- IITA, Kenya - cassava, cowpea, and banana | |||
** Jeffery Detras - IRRI - rice | |||
** Reinhard Simon - Centro Internacional de la Papa (CIP), Peru - potato/sweet potato | |||
** Manuel Riuz - CIRAD, France / CIAT, Colombia - rice | |||
** Cecile Grenier - CIRAD/CIAT Colombia - rice | |||
** Ashley DuVal - Mars, Inc USA - cacao | |||
** Anthony Bolger - RWTH Aachen University - Institute for Biology 1, Germany | |||
** Astrid Junker - IPK Gatersleben, Germany - HTP phenotyping | |||
* '' Outcomes: '' | |||
** No matter how hard you try to streamline the process, the uniqueness of people's data will continue to require expert intervention. | |||
*** the work is never truly "automated", everything requires a human checkpoint. | |||
*** reference ontology space makes it very difficult to standardize workflow | |||
*** no one is an expert on all things we attempt to capture | |||
*** collaborating with other application ontologies or working groups is necessary | |||
** High throughput phenotyping requires an entirely new standard vocabulary | |||
*** perhaps could be captured with a new set of "methods"? | |||
*** Only a few measurements are taken | |||
*** most of the "traits" are calculations and inferences | |||
===Discussion from meeting:=== | |||
* Data sets with multiple reps of measurements- How do we capture this? | |||
* single germplasm annotation with stable phenotypes | |||
* multiple reps and/or multiple experiments | |||
* GO - gaf2 has no way of capturing that | |||
* TASSEL scheme or database schema would handle this?? | |||
* limit on our side | |||
* Do we need a new evidence code to associate genotype and phenotype?? | |||
** experiment average of reps, average of locations | |||
* column 16 - new relationship - tells users that the score was averaged somehow | |||
* Variables from CO should indicate if it is an average or a single datapoint | |||
* MAL sent a rice data set from Cecile Grenier (CIRAD/CIAT Colombia) which contains replicated data measurements | |||
==2. Planning for ICBO/BioCreative Conference== | ==2. Planning for ICBO/BioCreative Conference== | ||
* Link to program: [http://icbo.cgrb.oregonstate.edu | * Link to program: [http://icbo.cgrb.oregonstate.edu ICBO + BioCreative] | ||
* BS will arrive the day before, and leave early on Friday | |||
* Currently have 67 submissions, but only 12 people have registered | |||
* PJ will send a reminder to the authors of the submitted papers: | |||
** 1. In order to have your accepted submission included in the proceedings of the meeting, at least one author from each paper must register for the meeting. | |||
** 2. Where authors are involved in more than one submission, a distinct author must register for each accepted paper. | |||
* good to have a number of people to support the workshops | |||
* [http://icbo.cgrb.oregonstate.edu/node/39 Plant Biodiversity Workshop] | |||
** Title: Tools and Applications for Data Standards and Knowledge Sharing in Plant Biodiversity | |||
** Workshop type: Project Workshop (Project specific talks + Discussions) | |||
** Organizer: Laurel Cooper, Oregon State University | |||
** Co-organizer(s): Dennis Wm. Stevenson, Chelsea Specht, Marie-Angelique LaPorte | |||
* Will set up a meeting with the co-organizers later this week. | |||
* Link to Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GK51a9J5v91nP7OiIB9XuEbDZyo3FmhlJ4N4_MqvvW0/edit?usp=sharing | |||
==3. Planning for Post-ICBO Curator Workshop == | ==3. Planning for Post-ICBO Curator Workshop == | ||
* The idea is this would be similar to the one held at OSU in November 2015 | * The idea is this would be similar to the one held at OSU in November 2015 | ||
* Venue: Alumni Center, just need a single room | |||
* Proposed Dates: Three days: Monday Aug 8th to Weds Aug 10th, (or possibly right before the ICBO mtg?), or maybe Friday May 5th to Sunday May 7th?? | |||
** ''Lol out Sunday Aug 7th for family responsibilities'' | |||
* If people come for the week of ICBO, are they able to stay for an additional 5 days to a week? BS: no, MAL: ? | |||
* People can come for the ICBO meeting and then stay for the plant-specific, more hand's on session | |||
** People have to stay through the weekend- we can pay for the stay in the dorms | |||
** If they come to this meeting, we can pay for their ICBO registration. | |||
* Who is interested in attending?- Ideally 5-6 people | |||
* Who is interested in attending ? | ** Indian researcher has contacted - working to get TO terms added, rice gene annotations, PJ will send his info to LC | ||
* | |||
* | * Target wheat and maize researchers, primarily from [http://www.cimmyt.org/ CIMMYT] ?, also rice | ||
** [http://cropgenebank.sgrp.cgiar.org/index.php/crops-mainmenu-367/maize-mainmenu-361/characterization-mainmenu-377 CIMMYT/CGIAR Characterization of Maize Page] | |||
* EA: Are you interested in genebank data or evaluation data? It is managed differently- starting with genebank data and can also work with evaluation data- different people- should discuss with Kate, CIMMYT will refer to the data managers, Kate could suggest a person from scientific team. | |||
* | * Focus on the people who are developing the TDs, annotations to germplasm, gene bank repositories, traits | ||
* Good to set the standards, | |||
** Julian Pietragalla- IBP, Mexico | |||
** Kate - maize data manager, entry point to | |||
** Rosemary Shrestha - wheat data manager | |||
** Need an additional wheat/Maize breeder- ask Julian?? | |||
* Could also go through the Wheat IS to find people with data sets... | |||
==4.Planteome Ontology Updates== | |||
* "Soft Release" of Plant Ontology, still working out a few issues for the Plant Trait Ontology | |||
= Upcoming Meetings and Workshops= | = Upcoming Meetings and Workshops= | ||
== 9th International Conference on Formal Ontology in Information Systems (FOIS 2016), Annecy, France on July 6th-9th, 2016== | |||
* http://www.iaoa.org/fois2016/ | |||
* BS is attending | |||
* most technically sophisticated ontology meeting, non computational | |||
* what relations should we use, how are ontologies taught?, what an object is? | |||
* High level ontology design and engineering | |||
* Planteome could present results in 2018, when we have some results - held every two years | |||
==[http://www.bio-ontologies.org.uk/call-for-participation BioOntologies SIG] of the [http://www.iscb.org/ismb2016 Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology (ISMB)]; July 8-12, 2016, Orlando, Florida == | ==[http://www.bio-ontologies.org.uk/call-for-participation BioOntologies SIG] of the [http://www.iscb.org/ismb2016 Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology (ISMB)]; July 8-12, 2016, Orlando, Florida == | ||
* Dates: July 8th and 9th, with July 9th being the “Phenotype Day”, focused on the systematic description of phenotypes. | * Dates: July 8th and 9th, with July 9th being the “Phenotype Day”, focused on the systematic description of phenotypes. |
Latest revision as of 21:57, 7 February 2017
Planteome Ontology WG Zoom Meeting
- Date: Tuesday May. 24th, 2016
- Time: 8:15am PDT (GMT-7)
- Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/400883197
- Attendees: LC, AM, MAL, BS, EA, PJ
- Regrets: CM
Agenda
1. Update from PhenoHarmonIS 2016, May 9th-13th, 2016; Montpellier, France
- Planteome members attending: LC, MAL, AM, EA, GG, JD
- Reports from the meeting:
- Link to website: https://sites.google.com/a/cgxchange.org/cropontologycommunity/home or http://tinyurl.com/hzsho6v
- About 70+ Participants attended: PhenoHarmonIS_List-of-participants
- Link to the agenda: PhenoHarmonIS Agenda
Planteome Presentations:
- Monday afternoon: oral presentation (10 mins) LC: "The Planteome Project"
- Monday late afternoon: Poster presentation- LC, AM, MAL: Planteome Poster
- Tuesday morning: oral presentation (10 min)- AM: "Annotating germplasm using the Plant Trait Ontology in Planteome"
- Tuesday afternoon: oral presentation (10 min)- MAL: "Ontology Mapping Techniques for traits"
- Tuesday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)- LV:
- Progressing on the Trait Dictionaries: Groups: wheat, rice, maize, Tree species (cacao), Musa, barley, sorghum, potato, sweet potato, yam
- Feedback on the TD template
- Notes:
- Wheat TD version #5 was uploaded just prior to the PhenoHarmonis meeting (to where?)
- Rosemary shared the validated mappings duringt he workshop, so MAL will be able to upload onto the Planteome Github
- Rice almost done
- Reinhard is almost done with the TDs for the potato, sweet potato
Leo is leaving the project as of May 30th- lack of funds and moving on to other things
- Leo working on the guide lines for the TDs
- Who will Continue work on TD, or is it dying?- Julian taking a few crops over,
- EA, and MAL will be working on the remainder in their free time.
- EA wants to hire someone new, but no funds, is applying for several grants. Agroportal has no funding .
- H2020 program not too secure funding
- Genticin (??) Platform more reliable
- PJ offered to talk to Leo about options if he is interested
- Weds afternoon- Visit to https://www6.montpellier.inra.fr/lepse_eng/M3P/PHENOARCH-platform
- High throughput phenotyping platform, rotate through different crop experiments
- Pascal's database,
- should try to access the list of evaluation data and the traits
- Analyzed final data, to test on
- how to address HTP phenotyping experiments?
- Follow-up with Astrid Junker, list of traits? :
- Francois Tardieu - leader at PhenoArch- LC will contact
Thursday afternoon: Hands-on Session (2.5 hours)-AM, LC: "Planteome: Bring Your Own Data Annotation Mini-Workshop
- 9 participants, 7 crop species:
- Nordine El- Hassouni - CIRAD - rice
- Trushar Shah- IITA, Kenya - cassava, cowpea, and banana
- Jeffery Detras - IRRI - rice
- Reinhard Simon - Centro Internacional de la Papa (CIP), Peru - potato/sweet potato
- Manuel Riuz - CIRAD, France / CIAT, Colombia - rice
- Cecile Grenier - CIRAD/CIAT Colombia - rice
- Ashley DuVal - Mars, Inc USA - cacao
- Anthony Bolger - RWTH Aachen University - Institute for Biology 1, Germany
- Astrid Junker - IPK Gatersleben, Germany - HTP phenotyping
- Outcomes:
- No matter how hard you try to streamline the process, the uniqueness of people's data will continue to require expert intervention.
- the work is never truly "automated", everything requires a human checkpoint.
- reference ontology space makes it very difficult to standardize workflow
- no one is an expert on all things we attempt to capture
- collaborating with other application ontologies or working groups is necessary
- High throughput phenotyping requires an entirely new standard vocabulary
- perhaps could be captured with a new set of "methods"?
- Only a few measurements are taken
- most of the "traits" are calculations and inferences
- No matter how hard you try to streamline the process, the uniqueness of people's data will continue to require expert intervention.
Discussion from meeting:
- Data sets with multiple reps of measurements- How do we capture this?
- single germplasm annotation with stable phenotypes
- multiple reps and/or multiple experiments
- GO - gaf2 has no way of capturing that
- TASSEL scheme or database schema would handle this??
- limit on our side
- Do we need a new evidence code to associate genotype and phenotype??
- experiment average of reps, average of locations
- column 16 - new relationship - tells users that the score was averaged somehow
- Variables from CO should indicate if it is an average or a single datapoint
- MAL sent a rice data set from Cecile Grenier (CIRAD/CIAT Colombia) which contains replicated data measurements
2. Planning for ICBO/BioCreative Conference
- Link to program: ICBO + BioCreative
- BS will arrive the day before, and leave early on Friday
- Currently have 67 submissions, but only 12 people have registered
- PJ will send a reminder to the authors of the submitted papers:
- 1. In order to have your accepted submission included in the proceedings of the meeting, at least one author from each paper must register for the meeting.
- 2. Where authors are involved in more than one submission, a distinct author must register for each accepted paper.
- good to have a number of people to support the workshops
- Plant Biodiversity Workshop
- Title: Tools and Applications for Data Standards and Knowledge Sharing in Plant Biodiversity
- Workshop type: Project Workshop (Project specific talks + Discussions)
- Organizer: Laurel Cooper, Oregon State University
- Co-organizer(s): Dennis Wm. Stevenson, Chelsea Specht, Marie-Angelique LaPorte
- Will set up a meeting with the co-organizers later this week.
- Link to Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GK51a9J5v91nP7OiIB9XuEbDZyo3FmhlJ4N4_MqvvW0/edit?usp=sharing
3. Planning for Post-ICBO Curator Workshop
- The idea is this would be similar to the one held at OSU in November 2015
- Venue: Alumni Center, just need a single room
- Proposed Dates: Three days: Monday Aug 8th to Weds Aug 10th, (or possibly right before the ICBO mtg?), or maybe Friday May 5th to Sunday May 7th??
- Lol out Sunday Aug 7th for family responsibilities
- If people come for the week of ICBO, are they able to stay for an additional 5 days to a week? BS: no, MAL: ?
- People can come for the ICBO meeting and then stay for the plant-specific, more hand's on session
- People have to stay through the weekend- we can pay for the stay in the dorms
- If they come to this meeting, we can pay for their ICBO registration.
- Who is interested in attending?- Ideally 5-6 people
- Indian researcher has contacted - working to get TO terms added, rice gene annotations, PJ will send his info to LC
- Target wheat and maize researchers, primarily from CIMMYT ?, also rice
- EA: Are you interested in genebank data or evaluation data? It is managed differently- starting with genebank data and can also work with evaluation data- different people- should discuss with Kate, CIMMYT will refer to the data managers, Kate could suggest a person from scientific team.
- Focus on the people who are developing the TDs, annotations to germplasm, gene bank repositories, traits
- Good to set the standards,
- Julian Pietragalla- IBP, Mexico
- Kate - maize data manager, entry point to
- Rosemary Shrestha - wheat data manager
- Need an additional wheat/Maize breeder- ask Julian??
- Could also go through the Wheat IS to find people with data sets...
4.Planteome Ontology Updates
- "Soft Release" of Plant Ontology, still working out a few issues for the Plant Trait Ontology
Upcoming Meetings and Workshops
9th International Conference on Formal Ontology in Information Systems (FOIS 2016), Annecy, France on July 6th-9th, 2016
- BS is attending
- most technically sophisticated ontology meeting, non computational
- what relations should we use, how are ontologies taught?, what an object is?
- High level ontology design and engineering
- Planteome could present results in 2018, when we have some results - held every two years
BioOntologies SIG of the Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology (ISMB); July 8-12, 2016, Orlando, Florida
- Dates: July 8th and 9th, with July 9th being the “Phenotype Day”, focused on the systematic description of phenotypes.
- Short papers, up to 4 pages (will be published in JBMS)
- Poster abstracts, up to 1 page
- Flash updates, up to 1 page
7th International Conference on Biological Ontology and BioCreative 2016 Aug 1st to 4th, Corvallis, OR
- Link to program: ICBO + BioCreative Program
- Link to Easy Chair site: https://easychair.org/conferences/conference_info.cgi?a=10776589