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* Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
* Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
* Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
* Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
* Connection details: '''Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
* Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
'''
* Attendees: TBA


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* Attendees: LC, AM, JE, PJ, EA, MAL, BS, GG.
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=Report on the PAG Workshop with CG Collaborators Monday Jan 11th=
[[File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 video.mp4|thumbnail|video]]
- 29 attendees


[[File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 audio.m4a|thumbnail|Ontology_WG_Meeting_1-21-2016_audio]]


= Revisions to the biochemical trait TO:0000277 branch of the TO:=
=Report on PAG 2016=
* strong emphasis on high throughput phenotyping, machine learning is hot right now
* data standardization, field scale measurements
* Utilization of ontologies for data annotation
* everyone wants specialized ontologies for THEIR data, not something predefined
* We need to demonstrate how ontologies are useful (as always)


==Revisions to the upper-level categories==
=Planteome Collaborators Workshop Monday Jan 11th=
- http://planteome.org/outreach/workshops/PAG_2016


[[File:Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 4.10.18 PM.png|thumbnail|Biochemical branch TO]]
* '''Goals of the Meeting:'''
** Introduce the Planteome project and launch Planteome 1.0 beta
** Provide an update on the progress of the collaboration with the Crop Ontology to map crop-specific trait dictionaries to the Reference Trait Ontology
** Provide a summary report and overview of the Planteome Curators Workshop, held Nov 2015 in Corvallis, OR
** Engage Planteome collaborators and the plant genomics community by demonstrating use cases of data annotation for rice, cassava and lentils
** Seek engagement of the plant genomics community through tools and applications to integrate into your workflow


Previously mentioned [http://wiki.planteome.org/index.php/Dec_8th,_2015_Ontology_Working_Group_Meeting December 8th meeting]
* Who attended?
- 29 attendees (link to spreadsheet: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Wl98Hy8LeQRZoDME2hDkqNgKqCjG89ymndJN84hP3I/edit?usp=docslist_api Participants list CO-Planteome Meeting PAG 2016])


Current upper level terms:
- Representatives from: CG centers (IITA, CIP, CIMMYT, IRRI) and Bioversity; INRA, IRD, LIRMM, USDA-ARS databases (SoyBase, MaizeGDB, GDR, PeanutBase, LegumeInfo), EBI, Transplant, ELIXIR Consortium, Rothamsted Research.


*TO:0000283 biological process related trait
==Comments and feedback==
*TO:0000282 enzymatic activity and protein content related trait
* People are concerned about the GAF2 format, but hopefully it  will be expanding to more than 16 columns- modification of the GAF2 format
*TO:0000281 metabolite content related trait
** we will develop standards for conversion to GAF2
*TO:0000465 mineral and ion content related trait
*TO:0020080 stover organic matter digestability


Suggest reducing to:
* Data download functionality on the browser needs to be refined
** PJ: Suggest to have the column headings displayed- that would help people (JE open issue @ column headings)


*mineral and ion content trait
''From JE: Can't really do it as the "download" is actually a direct query to the solr and can't add stuff to it.  However, there is a "Gaf chunk download" button that should actually have the gaf format, but again for technical reasons, we can't add a header line to.  But, that button currently doesn't work, and a ticket has been created for it.  Apparently, that button is not used much as it is broken on their end as well:
*metabolite content trait
https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/293''
*biological process trait


metabolite content branch to be divided further in parallel to ChEBI
* Modification and customization of the fields for download (open issue @)


[[File:biochemical branch TO.png]]
* figure out what format people want to download data in, allow for download in this format
** GeneBanks use the MCPD format (?)
** Need a few use-cases for questions that researchers will be trying to answer


== content/concentration/amount==
=Update on Planteome browsers=  
<big> Main Planteome website: http://planteome.org/</big>
* drupal front pages and AmiGO2 browser serving ontologies and annotation data


Biochemists definitions:


*concentration = amount/ VOLUME
<big> Development site: http://dev.planteome.org/amigo</big>
* Currently just ontology files but can also load annotations on there to test
** loads nightly with all the ontologies
** would be good if it was a different color or if there was a banner to alert users that it is the dev site. '''Done'''


*content = amount/MASS


PATO defs:
==Issues being sorted out:==
* '''Many of our relations are not being recognized and displayed in AmiGO 2.0''' (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
** only showing up- is_a, part_of and occurs_in;  this is an issues for the Gene Ontology as well
** Gene Ontology tracker: https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/220


*‘concentration of’ -A quality inhering in a substance by virtue of the amount of the bearer's there is mixed with another substance.


*'amount' -The number of entities of this type that are part of the whole organism.


-[https://github.com/pato-ontology/pato/issues/65 Requested a revision] of the 'amount' definition
* '''Synonym scopes are not being displayed- all the broad, narrow, related and exact synonyms are being lumped together'''- (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/17)
** Working with CM and Seth on resolving this.  It may require us fixing it on our end


*The number of entities of this type that are part of another entity.




=== Options: ===
* '''Links to GitHub trackers are not functional-'''
** Need to add these as dbxrefs in the AmiGO file- AM will do
** CM has suggested going to using the url of the issue instead.  LC will test, could write a script to implement this.


'''Merge content and concentration terms - new terms would be "amount"'''
*this would allow for an overall reduction of terms.


*Keeps the TO "measurement agnostic", in the reference ontology sense
From MAL:
* '''The CO terms are showing up as subclasses, but they get confused with other things that are subclasses'''- We need special relationship to link the CO and TO classes
* Currently, the method_of, scale_of and variable_of relations are not being displayed- MAL will post a comment on the tracker: (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
** Perhaps they should be 'taxonomic equivalents' AND subclasses? ; perhaps you can have double-relationships??? (Suggestion from BS)


*Might be problematic due to changing definitions of terms with existing annotations (none found on Planteome browser)
''This requires further discussion''


'''Add new parent term 'amount'.  Make content and concentration terms children of this parent (see image)'''
* '''Suggestions for improving the display:'''
** Perhaps color coding in the graph
** Changing CO_### to the correct name- e.gCO_334:0000432 Plant Height ---> lentil plant height
** How could this be done?


*Results in an overall addition of terms


*Adds unnecessary parent to cases where both content and concentration terms don't exist
* Merged version of TO will contain all the mappings to the Crop specific ontologies, so they will not have to be loaded individually (From PJ)
* The breeders and data managers from the CG centers will maintain their Trait Dictionaries (TDs), which should include the mappings to the TO
* MAL's script will convert from the TD to the ontology file
* We should work on creating and testing a merged version with cassava, rice and lentil


[[File:Content concentration amount.jpg]]
* '''Visualization: need a better way to view the ontology trees '''
** Choices now are OLS-vis, or the static .png display (note: OLS-Vis is currently only on the dev site)
** OLS-Vis tool (http://ols.wordvis.com/)- pulls all the ontologies from the urls, so it is the Release version.
** Could this be modified to display the planteome ones specifically on our browser?? ''Does not appear to be available for local install.''
 
==Trait vs descriptors- from EA- breeder terminology is important==
* Descriptors (need to avoid this word), these are not traits
** Usually measured on a small number of plants, and locations, with no stress
** qualitative scale, but may be converted to ???
** Often used for taxonomic reasons, measured at their maximum
 
* breeder evaluation of trait: done at multiple sites, multiple generations, include stress evaluations
** are traits, looking for stability
** indexed or quantitative, can be categorical scale
** evaluation: happens at multiple times
 
==AberOWL- Georgios V. Gkoutos==
* An ontology repository and semantic search engine- link to paper on PubMed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25627673
 
** semantic queries looking at relationships
* can search over all ontologies in obo
* reasoner is run, then query.
* can use SPQL
 
==Next meetings:==
* need to break up the calls into:
** Ontology- Tuesday Feb 2nd
** technical things (mappings and such)??
** Browser/annotation ??
** Planning
 
= Upcoming meetings and  workshops=
* Phenotype RCN meeting Feb 2016
* GARNet/Egenis Workshop: Integrating Large Data into Plant Science: From Big Data to Discovery
April 21st-22nd 2016 ([http://blog.garnetcommunity.org.uk/garnetegenis-workshop-integrating-large-data-plant-science-big-data-discovery/ Link])
* Meeting in Montpellier, May 2016
* ICBO 2016 Corvallis

Latest revision as of 21:51, 7 February 2017

Planteome Ontology WG Zoom Meeting

  • Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
  • Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
  • Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
  • Attendees: LC, AM, JE, PJ, EA, MAL, BS, GG.

File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 video.mp4

File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 audio.m4a

Report on PAG 2016

  • strong emphasis on high throughput phenotyping, machine learning is hot right now
  • data standardization, field scale measurements
  • Utilization of ontologies for data annotation
  • everyone wants specialized ontologies for THEIR data, not something predefined
  • We need to demonstrate how ontologies are useful (as always)

Planteome Collaborators Workshop Monday Jan 11th

- http://planteome.org/outreach/workshops/PAG_2016

  • Goals of the Meeting:
    • Introduce the Planteome project and launch Planteome 1.0 beta
    • Provide an update on the progress of the collaboration with the Crop Ontology to map crop-specific trait dictionaries to the Reference Trait Ontology
    • Provide a summary report and overview of the Planteome Curators Workshop, held Nov 2015 in Corvallis, OR
    • Engage Planteome collaborators and the plant genomics community by demonstrating use cases of data annotation for rice, cassava and lentils
    • Seek engagement of the plant genomics community through tools and applications to integrate into your workflow
  • Who attended?

- 29 attendees (link to spreadsheet: Participants list CO-Planteome Meeting PAG 2016)

- Representatives from: CG centers (IITA, CIP, CIMMYT, IRRI) and Bioversity; INRA, IRD, LIRMM, USDA-ARS databases (SoyBase, MaizeGDB, GDR, PeanutBase, LegumeInfo), EBI, Transplant, ELIXIR Consortium, Rothamsted Research.

Comments and feedback

  • People are concerned about the GAF2 format, but hopefully it will be expanding to more than 16 columns- modification of the GAF2 format
    • we will develop standards for conversion to GAF2
  • Data download functionality on the browser needs to be refined
    • PJ: Suggest to have the column headings displayed- that would help people (JE open issue @ column headings)

From JE: Can't really do it as the "download" is actually a direct query to the solr and can't add stuff to it. However, there is a "Gaf chunk download" button that should actually have the gaf format, but again for technical reasons, we can't add a header line to. But, that button currently doesn't work, and a ticket has been created for it. Apparently, that button is not used much as it is broken on their end as well: https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/293

  • Modification and customization of the fields for download (open issue @)
  • figure out what format people want to download data in, allow for download in this format
    • GeneBanks use the MCPD format (?)
    • Need a few use-cases for questions that researchers will be trying to answer

Update on Planteome browsers

Main Planteome website: http://planteome.org/

  • drupal front pages and AmiGO2 browser serving ontologies and annotation data


Development site: http://dev.planteome.org/amigo

  • Currently just ontology files but can also load annotations on there to test
    • loads nightly with all the ontologies
    • would be good if it was a different color or if there was a banner to alert users that it is the dev site. Done


Issues being sorted out:



  • Links to GitHub trackers are not functional-
    • Need to add these as dbxrefs in the AmiGO file- AM will do
    • CM has suggested going to using the url of the issue instead. LC will test, could write a script to implement this.


From MAL:

  • The CO terms are showing up as subclasses, but they get confused with other things that are subclasses- We need special relationship to link the CO and TO classes
  • Currently, the method_of, scale_of and variable_of relations are not being displayed- MAL will post a comment on the tracker: (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
    • Perhaps they should be 'taxonomic equivalents' AND subclasses? ; perhaps you can have double-relationships??? (Suggestion from BS)

This requires further discussion

  • Suggestions for improving the display:
    • Perhaps color coding in the graph
    • Changing CO_### to the correct name- e.g. CO_334:0000432 Plant Height ---> lentil plant height
    • How could this be done?


  • Merged version of TO will contain all the mappings to the Crop specific ontologies, so they will not have to be loaded individually (From PJ)
  • The breeders and data managers from the CG centers will maintain their Trait Dictionaries (TDs), which should include the mappings to the TO
  • MAL's script will convert from the TD to the ontology file
  • We should work on creating and testing a merged version with cassava, rice and lentil
  • Visualization: need a better way to view the ontology trees
    • Choices now are OLS-vis, or the static .png display (note: OLS-Vis is currently only on the dev site)
    • OLS-Vis tool (http://ols.wordvis.com/)- pulls all the ontologies from the urls, so it is the Release version.
    • Could this be modified to display the planteome ones specifically on our browser?? Does not appear to be available for local install.

Trait vs descriptors- from EA- breeder terminology is important

  • Descriptors (need to avoid this word), these are not traits
    • Usually measured on a small number of plants, and locations, with no stress
    • qualitative scale, but may be converted to ???
    • Often used for taxonomic reasons, measured at their maximum
  • breeder evaluation of trait: done at multiple sites, multiple generations, include stress evaluations
    • are traits, looking for stability
    • indexed or quantitative, can be categorical scale
    • evaluation: happens at multiple times

AberOWL- Georgios V. Gkoutos

    • semantic queries looking at relationships
  • can search over all ontologies in obo
  • reasoner is run, then query.
  • can use SPQL

Next meetings:

  • need to break up the calls into:
    • Ontology- Tuesday Feb 2nd
    • technical things (mappings and such)??
    • Browser/annotation ??
    • Planning

Upcoming meetings and workshops

  • Phenotype RCN meeting Feb 2016
  • GARNet/Egenis Workshop: Integrating Large Data into Plant Science: From Big Data to Discovery

April 21st-22nd 2016 (Link)

  • Meeting in Montpellier, May 2016
  • ICBO 2016 Corvallis