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* Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
* Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
* Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
* Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
* Connection details: '''Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
* Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
'''
* Attendees: TBA


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* Attendees: LC, AM, JE, PJ, EA, MAL, BS, GG.
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=Report on the PAG Workshop with CG Collaborators Monday Jan 11th=
[[File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 video.mp4|thumbnail|video]]
- 29 attendees


[[File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 audio.m4a|thumbnail|Ontology_WG_Meeting_1-21-2016_audio]]


= Revisions to the biochemical trait TO:0000277 branch of the TO:=
=Report on PAG 2016=
* strong emphasis on high throughput phenotyping, machine learning is hot right now
* data standardization, field scale measurements
* Utilization of ontologies for data annotation
* everyone wants specialized ontologies for THEIR data, not something predefined
* We need to demonstrate how ontologies are useful (as always)


==Revisions to the upper-level categories==
=Planteome Collaborators Workshop Monday Jan 11th=
- http://planteome.org/outreach/workshops/PAG_2016


[[File:Screen Shot 2016-01-15 at 4.10.18 PM.png|thumbnail|Biochemical branch TO]]
* '''Goals of the Meeting:'''
** Introduce the Planteome project and launch Planteome 1.0 beta
** Provide an update on the progress of the collaboration with the Crop Ontology to map crop-specific trait dictionaries to the Reference Trait Ontology
** Provide a summary report and overview of the Planteome Curators Workshop, held Nov 2015 in Corvallis, OR
** Engage Planteome collaborators and the plant genomics community by demonstrating use cases of data annotation for rice, cassava and lentils
** Seek engagement of the plant genomics community through tools and applications to integrate into your workflow


Previously mentioned [http://wiki.planteome.org/index.php/Dec_8th,_2015_Ontology_Working_Group_Meeting December 8th meeting]
* Who attended?
- 29 attendees (link to spreadsheet: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Wl98Hy8LeQRZoDME2hDkqNgKqCjG89ymndJN84hP3I/edit?usp=docslist_api Participants list CO-Planteome Meeting PAG 2016])


Current upper level terms:
- Representatives from: CG centers (IITA, CIP, CIMMYT, IRRI) and Bioversity; INRA, IRD, LIRMM, USDA-ARS databases (SoyBase, MaizeGDB, GDR, PeanutBase, LegumeInfo), EBI, Transplant, ELIXIR Consortium, Rothamsted Research.


*TO:0000283 biological process related trait
==Comments and feedback==
*TO:0000282 enzymatic activity and protein content related trait
* People are concerned about the GAF2 format, but hopefully it  will be expanding to more than 16 columns- modification of the GAF2 format
*TO:0000281 metabolite content related trait
** we will develop standards for conversion to GAF2
*TO:0000465 mineral and ion content related trait
*TO:0020080 stover organic matter digestability


Suggest reducing to:
* Data download functionality on the browser needs to be refined
** PJ: Suggest to have the column headings displayed- that would help people (JE open issue @ column headings)


*mineral and ion content trait
''From JE: Can't really do it as the "download" is actually a direct query to the solr and can't add stuff to it.  However, there is a "Gaf chunk download" button that should actually have the gaf format, but again for technical reasons, we can't add a header line to.  But, that button currently doesn't work, and a ticket has been created for it.  Apparently, that button is not used much as it is broken on their end as well:
*metabolite content trait
https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/293''
*biological process trait


metabolite content branch to be divided further in parallel to ChEBI
* Modification and customization of the fields for download (open issue @)


[[File:biochemical branch TO.png]]
* figure out what format people want to download data in, allow for download in this format
** GeneBanks use the MCPD format (?)
** Need a few use-cases for questions that researchers will be trying to answer


== content/concentration/amount==
=Update on Planteome browsers=  
<big> Main Planteome website: http://planteome.org/</big>
* drupal front pages and AmiGO2 browser serving ontologies and annotation data


Biochemists definitions:


*concentration = amount/ VOLUME
<big> Development site: http://dev.planteome.org/amigo</big>
* Currently just ontology files but can also load annotations on there to test
** loads nightly with all the ontologies
** would be good if it was a different color or if there was a banner to alert users that it is the dev site. '''Done'''


*content = amount/MASS


PATO defs:
==Issues being sorted out:==
* '''Many of our relations are not being recognized and displayed in AmiGO 2.0''' (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
** only showing up- is_a, part_of and occurs_in;  this is an issues for the Gene Ontology as well
** Gene Ontology tracker: https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/220


*‘concentration of’ -A quality inhering in a substance by virtue of the amount of the bearer's there is mixed with another substance.


*'amount' -The number of entities of this type that are part of the whole organism.


-[https://github.com/pato-ontology/pato/issues/65 Requested a revision] of the 'amount' definition
* '''Synonym scopes are not being displayed- all the broad, narrow, related and exact synonyms are being lumped together'''- (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/17)
** Working with CM and Seth on resolving this.  It may require us fixing it on our end


*The number of entities of this type that are part of another entity.




=== Options: ===
* '''Links to GitHub trackers are not functional-'''
** Need to add these as dbxrefs in the AmiGO file- AM will do
** CM has suggested going to using the url of the issue instead.  LC will test, could write a script to implement this.


'''Merge content and concentration terms - new terms would be "amount"'''
*this would allow for an overall reduction of terms.


*Might be problematic due to changing definitions of terms with existing annotations (none found on planteome browser)
From MAL:
* '''The CO terms are showing up as subclasses, but they get confused with other things that are subclasses'''- We need special relationship to link the CO and TO classes
* Currently, the method_of, scale_of and variable_of relations are not being displayed- MAL will post a comment on the tracker: (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
** Perhaps they should be 'taxonomic equivalents' AND subclasses? ; perhaps you can have double-relationships??? (Suggestion from BS)


'''Add new parent term 'amount'.  Make content and concentration terms children of this parent (see image)'''
''This requires further discussion''


*Results in an overall addition of terms
* '''Suggestions for improving the display:'''
** Perhaps color coding in the graph
** Changing CO_### to the correct name- e.g.  CO_334:0000432 Plant Height ---> lentil plant height
** How could this be done?


*Adds unnecessary parent to cases where both content and concentration terms don't exist


[[File:Content concentration amount.jpg]]
* Merged version of TO will contain all the mappings to the Crop specific ontologies, so they will not have to be loaded individually (From PJ)
* The breeders and data managers from the CG centers will maintain their Trait Dictionaries (TDs), which should include the mappings to the TO
* MAL's script will convert from the TD to the ontology file
* We should work on creating and testing a merged version with cassava, rice and lentil
 
* '''Visualization: need a better way to view the ontology trees '''
** Choices now are OLS-vis, or the static .png display (note: OLS-Vis is currently only on the dev site)
** OLS-Vis tool (http://ols.wordvis.com/)- pulls all the ontologies from the urls, so it is the Release version.
** Could this be modified to display the planteome ones specifically on our browser?? ''Does not appear to be available for local install.''
 
==Trait vs descriptors- from EA- breeder terminology is important==
* Descriptors (need to avoid this word), these are not traits
** Usually measured on a small number of plants, and locations, with no stress
** qualitative scale, but may be converted to ???
** Often used for taxonomic reasons, measured at their maximum
 
* breeder evaluation of trait: done at multiple sites, multiple generations, include stress evaluations
** are traits, looking for stability
** indexed or quantitative, can be categorical scale
** evaluation: happens at multiple times
 
==AberOWL- Georgios V. Gkoutos==
* An ontology repository and semantic search engine- link to paper on PubMed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25627673
 
** semantic queries looking at relationships
* can search over all ontologies in obo
* reasoner is run, then query.
* can use SPQL
 
==Next meetings:==
* need to break up the calls into:
** Ontology- Tuesday Feb 2nd
** technical things (mappings and such)??
** Browser/annotation ??
** Planning
 
= Upcoming meetings and  workshops=
* Phenotype RCN meeting Feb 2016
* GARNet/Egenis Workshop: Integrating Large Data into Plant Science: From Big Data to Discovery
April 21st-22nd 2016 ([http://blog.garnetcommunity.org.uk/garnetegenis-workshop-integrating-large-data-plant-science-big-data-discovery/ Link])
* Meeting in Montpellier, May 2016
* ICBO 2016 Corvallis

Latest revision as of 21:51, 7 February 2017

Planteome Ontology WG Zoom Meeting

  • Date: Thursday Jan. 21st, 2016
  • Time: 8:15am PST (GMT-8)
  • Connection details: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/757453328
  • Attendees: LC, AM, JE, PJ, EA, MAL, BS, GG.

File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 video.mp4

File:Ontology WG Meeting 1-21-2016 audio.m4a

Report on PAG 2016

  • strong emphasis on high throughput phenotyping, machine learning is hot right now
  • data standardization, field scale measurements
  • Utilization of ontologies for data annotation
  • everyone wants specialized ontologies for THEIR data, not something predefined
  • We need to demonstrate how ontologies are useful (as always)

Planteome Collaborators Workshop Monday Jan 11th

- http://planteome.org/outreach/workshops/PAG_2016

  • Goals of the Meeting:
    • Introduce the Planteome project and launch Planteome 1.0 beta
    • Provide an update on the progress of the collaboration with the Crop Ontology to map crop-specific trait dictionaries to the Reference Trait Ontology
    • Provide a summary report and overview of the Planteome Curators Workshop, held Nov 2015 in Corvallis, OR
    • Engage Planteome collaborators and the plant genomics community by demonstrating use cases of data annotation for rice, cassava and lentils
    • Seek engagement of the plant genomics community through tools and applications to integrate into your workflow
  • Who attended?

- 29 attendees (link to spreadsheet: Participants list CO-Planteome Meeting PAG 2016)

- Representatives from: CG centers (IITA, CIP, CIMMYT, IRRI) and Bioversity; INRA, IRD, LIRMM, USDA-ARS databases (SoyBase, MaizeGDB, GDR, PeanutBase, LegumeInfo), EBI, Transplant, ELIXIR Consortium, Rothamsted Research.

Comments and feedback

  • People are concerned about the GAF2 format, but hopefully it will be expanding to more than 16 columns- modification of the GAF2 format
    • we will develop standards for conversion to GAF2
  • Data download functionality on the browser needs to be refined
    • PJ: Suggest to have the column headings displayed- that would help people (JE open issue @ column headings)

From JE: Can't really do it as the "download" is actually a direct query to the solr and can't add stuff to it. However, there is a "Gaf chunk download" button that should actually have the gaf format, but again for technical reasons, we can't add a header line to. But, that button currently doesn't work, and a ticket has been created for it. Apparently, that button is not used much as it is broken on their end as well: https://github.com/geneontology/amigo/issues/293

  • Modification and customization of the fields for download (open issue @)
  • figure out what format people want to download data in, allow for download in this format
    • GeneBanks use the MCPD format (?)
    • Need a few use-cases for questions that researchers will be trying to answer

Update on Planteome browsers

Main Planteome website: http://planteome.org/

  • drupal front pages and AmiGO2 browser serving ontologies and annotation data


Development site: http://dev.planteome.org/amigo

  • Currently just ontology files but can also load annotations on there to test
    • loads nightly with all the ontologies
    • would be good if it was a different color or if there was a banner to alert users that it is the dev site. Done


Issues being sorted out:



  • Links to GitHub trackers are not functional-
    • Need to add these as dbxrefs in the AmiGO file- AM will do
    • CM has suggested going to using the url of the issue instead. LC will test, could write a script to implement this.


From MAL:

  • The CO terms are showing up as subclasses, but they get confused with other things that are subclasses- We need special relationship to link the CO and TO classes
  • Currently, the method_of, scale_of and variable_of relations are not being displayed- MAL will post a comment on the tracker: (https://github.com/Planteome/planteome-ontology-browsers/issues/20)
    • Perhaps they should be 'taxonomic equivalents' AND subclasses? ; perhaps you can have double-relationships??? (Suggestion from BS)

This requires further discussion

  • Suggestions for improving the display:
    • Perhaps color coding in the graph
    • Changing CO_### to the correct name- e.g. CO_334:0000432 Plant Height ---> lentil plant height
    • How could this be done?


  • Merged version of TO will contain all the mappings to the Crop specific ontologies, so they will not have to be loaded individually (From PJ)
  • The breeders and data managers from the CG centers will maintain their Trait Dictionaries (TDs), which should include the mappings to the TO
  • MAL's script will convert from the TD to the ontology file
  • We should work on creating and testing a merged version with cassava, rice and lentil
  • Visualization: need a better way to view the ontology trees
    • Choices now are OLS-vis, or the static .png display (note: OLS-Vis is currently only on the dev site)
    • OLS-Vis tool (http://ols.wordvis.com/)- pulls all the ontologies from the urls, so it is the Release version.
    • Could this be modified to display the planteome ones specifically on our browser?? Does not appear to be available for local install.

Trait vs descriptors- from EA- breeder terminology is important

  • Descriptors (need to avoid this word), these are not traits
    • Usually measured on a small number of plants, and locations, with no stress
    • qualitative scale, but may be converted to ???
    • Often used for taxonomic reasons, measured at their maximum
  • breeder evaluation of trait: done at multiple sites, multiple generations, include stress evaluations
    • are traits, looking for stability
    • indexed or quantitative, can be categorical scale
    • evaluation: happens at multiple times

AberOWL- Georgios V. Gkoutos

    • semantic queries looking at relationships
  • can search over all ontologies in obo
  • reasoner is run, then query.
  • can use SPQL

Next meetings:

  • need to break up the calls into:
    • Ontology- Tuesday Feb 2nd
    • technical things (mappings and such)??
    • Browser/annotation ??
    • Planning

Upcoming meetings and workshops

  • Phenotype RCN meeting Feb 2016
  • GARNet/Egenis Workshop: Integrating Large Data into Plant Science: From Big Data to Discovery

April 21st-22nd 2016 (Link)

  • Meeting in Montpellier, May 2016
  • ICBO 2016 Corvallis